Posts by Half banana

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RE: Appropriate attire for graduation ceremony

by Lied2NoMore in

will the branch send out a letter to address appropriate attire for the worldwide graduation from .

"the school that no one ever graduates from"?.

i have been thinking of the endless ways this new direction for the tms termination screams for criticism.. i am sure a quick publication search will reveal several references gushing at how great of an invention the tms was, how it has benefitted jw's, you know, gush, gush, greatest thing since sliced bread, blah, blah, blah.... i'm not interesting in looking at the moment, but wasn't knorr credited with its invention and rollout?.

Half banana

I love the idea of discussing the holy artwork as well as the Bible. Is this for the growing and much commended illiteracy among JWs?

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All must be ready to obey...

by Half banana in

in view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten armageddon, i think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

by dripping these creepy injunctions into the watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the jw, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?......

jw tv broadcast july 2017.

Half banana

In view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten Armageddon, I think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

By dripping these creepy injunctions into the Watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the JW, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?.....

JW TV broadcast July 2017

“The time has come when all of us will have our loyalty put to the test. The Faithful Slave has lovingly given warning in advance that all of us must be ready to obey ANY instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. All servants of Jehovah will be required to have our loyalty put to the test. Now is that time.

In view of the unusual events heaped upon us by Jehovah’s enemies, the Faithful Slave, who have never failed in their theocratic duty to supply the timely needs of Jehovah’s faithful sheep, is instructing all members of all the world-wide Bethel families to go to their rooms and partake of the contents of the phial each will be given. In view of the extreme spiritual urgency of the times and the knowledge that total obedience is the hallmark of those who will gain Jehovah’s true and ultimate blessing of everlasting life, we are requesting that at seven o’clock GMT, world-wide, after prayers from the committee, you will all partake...”

I could have added the same demand for all publishers to meet at the KH simultaneously world wide to the same end...

This would be a grotesque conclusion... then just why are the GB preparing the minds of the believers to such a paranoid pitch? What would absolute control over their flock do for them? Surely not just for the idle pleasure of exercising absolute power? Where and what could it be leading to?

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Large Increase in Trolley Witnessing

by The Searcher in

when the org implements its bethelite "genocide" and demotes many members of the "worldwide order of special full-time servants of jehovahs witnesses" into lowly regular pioneers, many more trollies will have to be found in order for such ones to rack up their required monthly hours.. how many are actually going to be shocked by this into waking up?

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Half banana

As Jesus said "Above all else, get your hours in".

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Snippet from the weekly meeting of the governing body of JW org, September 2015

by Half banana in

actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out.

the chair:.

...so there we have it brothers, were up shit creek!

Half banana

Actual in-house accounts (as opposed to the official ones) having been read out

The chair:

...So there we have it Brothers, we’re up shit creek! This is affecting my (expletive) nerves. Even with all our (expletive) assets and income, the bank has emphatically said, “No more credit”. I’m beginning to think that Jehovah has (expletive) forgotten us! What was it that brother Russell said that when the money ran out that would be the time to stop publishing? I really think we should give this some (expletive) serious thought this morning. First off we gotta stop spending money on fancy things like catering and laundry and get rid of the lower orders in Bethel. Next off, stop all construction projects except our own lakeside retirement village upstate. Stuff the British branch just tell ’em no more money and they can make do on what they’ve got. Sell off the fancy translation houses, that’ll bring in some cash.

If only the brothers would do what we say and (expletive) obey, we wouldn’t be in this fix and they would keep sending in the money. Brothers, just why is it we are in this (expletive) situation?

Bro GB member: It’s the rank and file not sending in the (expletive) money.

Other GB member: I reckon it’s because the brothers are beginning to have twigged what we are up to.

Chair: You know I don’t want any of this to get out but I think we are all coming to the same (expletive) conclusion; “our thing” (cosa nostra in Italian) looks like it‘s had its day here. We can’t keep the end of the world as a credible proposition for forever, the time comes when in this particular business...and God knows it’s a good business... with ‘good’ people...but I think now is the right time to diversify... and get the (expletive) cash into the right accounts before it's too late!

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Revolt Brewing At Headquarter and Different Branches and The Governing Body Is Losing Credibility Among It's Staff

by Brokeback Watchtower in

in my mind i see this as a very real situation developing rapidly world wide as these child molestation pay out become public knowledge and can no longer be denied or kept secret from the r&f.

pretty soon the governing body will be the but of many jokes at headquarters and abroad.

they are being caught red handed while robbing the cookie jar.

Half banana

The JW organisation is by nature revolting!

The problem is that the suckers who support it are indoctrinated each week of their lives to be blindly loyal and not to revolt.

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Anthony Morris explains how God gives Decrees to man! New video edit.

by Wasanelder Once in

i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.

here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.

it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.

Half banana

The fact of the matter is that Big J is not the slightest bit interested in the GB.

There can be no explanation of the method of communication between the two because it's a fiction to start with... and as for them not being chosen yet, what a lark! For not only they are not chosen but the role of the GB has been demoted to just a "theological construct" (or very similar term) according to their busy lawyers a couple of years back, so as to make them untouchable as far as fraud and blame in court cases.

With the bizarre body language of Tight pants Tony who now is looking and acting like a terminal depressive and burdened by the financial problems--- I like what Virgochik suggests; that they are becoming atheists! In practice this could be that one or two of them are waking up to TTATT.

That would be fun.

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Most translated website in the world?

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php.

i wonder if this is true.

lots of people commenting after the article about how it's proof of g#ds blessing.. so if jw.borg ever gets overtaken in the rankings does that mean the blessing has left the building?.

Half banana

That's a good point Disposable, yet already they might spot that with the financial difficulties, Big J doesn't seem very interested in helping them?

Their world record however is in the same category as their old magazines; the most published but least read. What a waste of effort translating cult-gibberish into all languages.

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That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

by Island Man in

a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

Half banana

@Diogenes sister, I’m sorry that Bender makes demands on your brain but you’ve got to agree he is more fun than Jesus?

Here’s where the trouble lies...in taking stories on board, certain people not only think they are true but make them sacred as well. This generation will know Bender is a story character but when robots become commonplace, future robots might think he really existed!

Qualitatively, Jesus and Bender both are the product of the human imagination. What a relief it is to give up on the sacred!

@ Perry, your very lengthy referenced material was interesting and informative. Someone here very recently said how when the WTS came up with counter arguments they found it useful as they actually made for a convincing case against the society. I honestly think you have done the same here.

The mythicist position on Jesus is that his story, his persona, has a pagan pedigree which is, as in your proffered document, refuted mainly on the fact that he does not follow all the attributes given to earlier God-men. Of course he does not, that is the nature of story-telling when dispersed linguistically, ethnically and over time. What makes the myth stick however is that although the characters change names and appearance; their function in the mythical plot does not. For example Jesus (outside of JWism) is the son of God but himself a god. This harmonises with the myth; he is born at midwinter (not “of the Virgin” but IN the Virgin of the ancient zodiac) and dies sacrificially at the spring equinox and returns to his solar father in the heavens who is also a Sun god.

These key attributes or tropes are found in all of the earlier sacrificial God-men saviours. The reason being that underneath the familiar story is yet an earlier and more primitive pagan acknowledgement; a universally held mythos from pre-literate, oral tradition. These are based on the meanings and cyclic nature of the constellations of stars, Sun and Moon.

Jesus ultimately is drawn from the annual story of the birth and rising illumination of the Sun through the solar year. Solar gods must die and take the value of their life to redeem mankind by going their way to their solar father in heaven, the reason for this (from the source myth) is from the observable fact that light at the spring equinox appears suddenly to begin to shine much brighter. The explanation given was that the radiant son of the Sun God and his solar father are now ruling together from the heavens in glory.

The Jesus story is nothing other than the solar myth vastly elaborated and dressed up for acceptability as a sacred narrative to the Levantine audience. To remain thinking that it is from God is naive.

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How much would it take to bankrupt the Watchtower Organization?

by Vetro in

so how much would it take to bankrupt the watchtower organization, they're already having to bleed tens of millions to child abuse victims, how much more would it take to bring the society to it's knees, i know at one point they were going to sell off bethel.

Half banana

I would just like to add to Outlaw's mention of moral bankruptcy; that of intellectual bankruptcy. Financial bankruptcy would make for a happy trinity!

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Half banana

Vetro, I hear what you are saying and although I am not a believer, I think even a simple minded JW would be able to sympathetically apply the scripture that God wants "Mercy and not sacrifice" to saving a life with the use of blood rather than allowing a person to die. The JW leadership in its harsh decrees would rather sacrifice a life than save one. Where is the mercy with the Watchtower and its God?